I’ve taken the social prime Immersion, as well as pre-immersion and post immersion coaching. Prior to this, I have 12 years of game below my belt, but I’ve still struggled. Wherever I go I become a known part of the community, I think mainly because of my dedication and persistence – but also my encouragement of newer people on this journey. 

 

During my experience with social prime, my main coaches were:

Pre-immersion coaching: Chris Wilde, Nils Flair

Immersion: Lazarus

Post-immersion coaching: Chris Wilde

I’ll start with the Pre-Immersion coaching. I started this while I was too fucked up to do technical game. A girl had just left me. I loved her, and she just went to fuck someone else. I felt like shit. 

According to Social Prime, that is totally OK – and I brought my broken self out and let girls see this. I cried myself into sex, at least once. It was spotty though. At the end of every night I would go through the sets in my mind so see where I could’ve been more honest. It felt very healthy.

BUT IT’S NOT THE ABSOLUTE DIVINE TRUTH

I had plenty of sets where the girl liked me, but because of simple logistical or technical issues, I went home empty handed. I think most of the lessons I’ve learned can be read here, as well as the feedback I got. I got progressively better, restructured things in my mind a bit with the awesome help of Nils Flair. But also I got technically better. When you’re just being yourself, the pain is so real when the girl leaves for the toilet and never go back. That’s just fucked up, that’s not normal – if you have such a great connection. Then you learn to fucking stay. Wait for her, don’t let her disappear into the night, if you such a great connection. 

Once I arrived in Poland, for the Immersion, I approached a single set that night, a two-set, and her friend pushed the girl I wanted onto me. I spent the entire night with her. ONE approach – the whole night. I was starting to feel like I was nailing this down.  

Now I want to be clear about this – the coaching that I got here was awesome. And it was free. I also think it was part of a pre-immersion sales funnel. I got sparse written feedback from chris, but also two live video calls with Nils. 

Nils also wanted to talk to me about taking the Immersion. I didn’t really want to take it, I was doing great – even if I also had some struggles. He convinced me that it would be a definite short-cut and time-saver. Do you really have the time to keep on doing this? He also promised that if they couldn’t fix me, I’d *deserve* the money back anyway. 

Immersion-time

I travelled in a bit in advance. I wanted to get used to the place, feel at home, get some food, so I could focus on the immersion. I asked where to go, because I wanted to go out, and there was this club with a latin name (I think) that I went to. 

I was just about to have one of the best nights in my life, but I didn’t know that. 

I walked around inside a bit, there was not that many people. Not a single lone girl that I could poach off. I did 2 or 3 laps around the place and I was like “fuck it, I’ll just have to approach a ballsier set as my first one”. And I said Hi to this girl, and her friend.

This was a long time ago now, but here’s a few things that I remember. 

  • Her friend literally winged me perfectly
    • she left us alone
    • she suggested we’d go dancing
    • She ensured my girl that she could take care of herself
    • She even tried to escape with a taxi on her own
  • My girl told me “not to look at me *that way*”. I was just actually looking at her. I was not doing anything really, but she was getting aroused.
  • Once I started talking to her, I didn’t really have a plan or make any real concious desicion that I remember, I mostly just went with the flow. 

She was the only girl that I approached that night. She didn’t want to kiss me because she didn’t want to get feelings (that’s a pretty good reason for a girl not to want to kiss you I think). I almost pulled her, it was so close. She was also an awesome girl, cute, and just a good girl. 

I felt fucking stellar. This is what game is. You talk to ONE chick, and that’s the one you go home with. I’m so close now. This elevated congruency from following social prime’s stuff is making a definite difference. I feel better. I’m OK. I’m starting to let go, as I get more encouragement that I’m fine the way I am. 

Next day, still pre-immersion I also went out, this time with the crew. I was mostly hanging out with Nils. 

For those that haven’t met Nils. He has an awesome vibe. He feels so warm and caring. Warm Alpha would be the definition of Nils. He helps out. He understands you. He makes the difficult fun. He figures out how you work, and offers direction in your own language – in a way you can understand. Trusting Nils is natural. 

I met people who hate the rest of the crew, but still likes Nils. For all the reasons mentioned, I think he’s the best coach they have. If anyone can teach you game (on this planet) I think it’s Nils. Unfortunately, I didn’t get to spend much time with him, except this day before the immersion. 

He still gave me a good lesson though, one of the few that I value from this immersion time. I approached a hot babe – a real hottie. She giggles a bit, but sidled away. I got back to Nils.

“You should reapproach her!” Nils said

“Ah… I don’t know if she really wants to talk to me”

“Really..? She’s so hot, I’d definetly reapproach her”

There was a silence there as we were both watching her. 

“I think I’d feel really awkward to go up to her again,” I said. 

He looked at me and gave me a big reassuring smile. 

“Then go tell her that.”

There was no pressure here. Or maby the gentlest of warm encouraging pressure. I went. It was pretty good. I went back to Nils after I lost her. He sent me back again. Feeling awkward once more. I think it happened even one more time. It ended up being pretty good, and I ended up getting her contact. 

There was also two other girls that I either kissed, or had this strong sexual vibe with. I considered it a pretty good night all things considered. 

I’d learnt how to persist in a natural way. I got a contact and some sexual vibes with a couple of chicks. 

Let’s start the Immersion already…!

So I had talked to all these people before. All of them. Chris had tried some things with me before. I’d hung out with Nikolas and Nils. Talked a bit with lazurus. Amine was in Budapest once in a while. I felt quite welcome, and quite happy to be there. Everything I’d seen so far told me that these guys seemed, at the very least, like good guys. They would do their best. 

We were a couple of dudes from around the world. We were a real different bunch. We had to talk a bit about ourselves, into a camera.

I complained about this, I was like why is there a fucking camera here when we’re about to talk about real awkward sensitive shit. 

“Don’t worry about it, you’ll understand in the end.”

This is the very first thing that rubbed me the wrong way. Everything else so far had clicked. Everything else, could be explained, and made sense. But now there was no explaination for having to talk about this stuff into a camera…? It rubbed me the wrong way, to say the least. But I trusted the guys. 

There was some general reluctance in all of us to speak into the camera. But during the Immersion this shifted. Not even knowing why they were doing it, people would say “give me the camera”. This is truly amazing. People would go out of their way to conform to this outlandish thing on their own – like accepting some foreign custom, being peer pressured into a shitty behaviour, and then just picking it up as your own. I’m sure there is a great lesson about manipulation here you could use, if you delve deeper into it.

I think the first exercise we did was to write down the factors that needed to be present to pull and have sex with a girl within an hour from the club. Then simplify these as much as possible. We repeated this exercise almost daily, sometimes more than once daily. 

Again we did this with no explanation as to why. I did not understand it, but I did it anyway. If it had an effect on me, it was a pretty shitty effect. I’ve pulled within an hour before. I pulled within 10 minutes before. 

…But that was always a matter of chance. You find some incredibly horney chick who’s all alone. Now I was actually trying to pull within an hour as a baseline. I felt very stressed. Usually it takes me way longer than an hour. Chris later modified this exercise to two hours, just for me. 

Also, every day we did journaling. Writing down what we felt, and what actions we took. No explaining to what’s the point either. I didn’t like it. I failed to see how writing in this way could have any kind of impact. I still did it, and continued to do it for half a year after the immersion. All the time I felt like I wasted my time. I had previously been writing a report every night anyway, to get some feedback on, and make me consider what I could improve. 

I still feel incredible reluctance to this type of writing. It led me down into a very dark place in the end.

—-So anyway, we went out. I was used to going out solo by now, but by the end of the night, I susually was looking for someone to help me pull the two-sets. -But as a baseline, I was solo. We went to this latin club again, and I felt like I didn’t really want to approach. Nils told me to not approach if i didn’t feel like it. So I didn’t. 

I saw this hot girl all alone. I almost had a reflex to go for it. It’s an opportunity. But then I analyzed my feelings, and I wasn’t sure that I, in that moment, really wanted to. So I didn’t. 

This was the beginning of my current predicament. When I deconstructed my old habits, that I’ve built up for years to help me along, to cover my blind spots, etc. Sure, I didn’t always want to go out (most of the time I didn’t wanna go out), but I went out anyway, like clockwork. It was a habit. Some of the nights where I dreaded it the most, I pulled. I went out sick. Last time I went out sick I pulled one of the hottest chicks I’ve ever been with, under the magic influence of the hard drug – paracetamol. 

I didn’t always want to approach. In fact, most of the times, in the beginning of the night, I DIDN’T want to approach at all. This was something that naturally was improving though, as I was getting better results, through just expressing myself. So some nights now, despite years of forcing myself to approaching, and building a habit towards that – I just wanted to approach from the get-go. Such a relief. So beautiful. But if I DIDN’T feel that way, I still approached.

And I kept at it until there was no sets left with beautiful girls in the club, in the next club, and in the next club after that. I’d go home being proud of myself. 

Now though, I was doubting even the first step. Did I want to approach this girl? Did I want to keep talking to her? Etc etc. 

As I was doubting even this very baseline stuff, my nights would get increasingly bad from this point on, as I was really being stuck inside my own head, with my emotions that turned increasingly bad. 

Eventually Lazarus crystallized out as my coach, and was with me every night. He would really harp on this point. 

“LET IT GO,” he would scream. “ACCEPT THAT YOU WILL **NEVER** GET LAID AGAIN.”

I was like WTF are you talking about. 

“Let ALL of this game shit go. ALL OF IT. You don’t have to do ANYTHING. And the more you think you have to do, the less of a natural you are. Don’t do ANYTHING you don’t want to do. Nothing. If you don’t want to talk to the girl, walk away.”

This guy was really shitting in my brain on a daily basis. I’d talk to a girl, hit a hump in the conversation where it was uncomfortable – and then I would leave. Who knew, it could actually be taxing to meet new people before. I hadn’t even thought of that. Maybe I really didn’t want to do this. I invariably sucked ass whenever Lazarus was with me, and I was getting worse every day. 

But one night at least, he went home early. I was free. I approached a girl like I usually would. I was still a bit fucked up, I felt like a broken radio somehow, with disturbing frequencys messing me up. Whenever I hit a low in the conversation, I just told her how I felt, and I ended up pulling her. Outside of her appartment though, she didn’t want to let me in. This was a problem for me, I’d been pulling quite a lot recently – several times per week some weeks, but many times I lost the girl at the door. I was working out how to get in with her. This girl just needed an excuse. She didn’t wanna feel like a slut. I didn’t tell her an excuse, I was sticking to the program. She didn’t let me in, even though I was super honest, telling her I felt bad that she didn’t let me in (I don’t remember exactly what I said) – and I walked home alone. 

The next few days was more of the same. I started to get people hitting me up online, because they saw pictures of me. I’m a pretty well known character in community, and now people were sending me messages like “Are you taking the immersion..???! How is it?”

Turns out social prime was taking all these pictures of us, and just posting online. They never asked if they could do this. It seemed to me they wanted to prove that they had students on their immersion to all other people who might be talking shit about them.

THAT IS NOT MY CONCERN. I didn’t pay for you to put up pictures of me. You didn’t even ask if you could. Every day from now on I had new people asking about social prime. I felt like my privacy had been violated in some way. 

There was a lot of talk of us having to sign a contract as well, we were first about to pay the full fee, most of us had just paid the deposit. Nils was personally in contact with me asking me to pay in full. I did. The next day, after already having paid,  I got the contract.

Such a broken fucking mess. I will not sign that shit. I WISH they had shown me that contract FIRST, before asking me to pay – like in every other similar business interaction. Like proffessionals, not like scumbags. 

For instance, you give your permission to have them use your photage as marketing material, so they can put up all these videos about you talking about your deep problems. If you ask, they can blur your face. No way. As a professional Medical Doctor, working in psychiatry I could NEVER do this to our patients. In fact, WE DOCTORS have to sign a contract of NON-DISCLOSURE. I am legally FORBIDDEN to say anything that can make you even identify ANY of my patients. If I have a partner, I can not even talk to her about my day. Much less, post pictures online without permission, record videos and post them too, and spread them around as much as possible. Good God, the difference here is just staggering. 

My second pull

Alright, this was about to be the very last pull I did for the next 11 months (written 05/04/2020 – still no pull). That is correct, you heard me right. Before the immersion, I was pulling 1-2 times per week. After, I didn’t even pull a single girl. NOT ONE. After 12 years in game, this basically led me to have a depression, and being incredibly full of anxiety. I don’t even want to write this since it takes me back. The time after the immersion, as I was being coached by Chris still, is probably one of the WORST episodes in my life. I would rather go through a full year of military again than take a 2 week immersion. 

While I think it is really bad for me to delve into this – I actually just want to forget about it – I also do believe, I have to share this. I’ve written some negative stuff on social prime before, only to have it removed. I’m sure there are positive results, but the negative needs to be there as well. Everyone should go into a 5 grand deal with as much CORRECT information as they can, this is a lot of money, for most people here. 

Now, in his latest endevour Chris has expressedly written that negative reviews ARE NOT ALLOWED: You will not publish any unapproved testimonial on other platforms or take any actions that might damage the reputation of the company, the program or myself.

This is the full FB post where this is expressed, as well as a picture link if the post gets edited.

Such incredibly horrible business practises. There would not be a need to forbid negative reviews, if they actually delivered on their exaggerated promises. 

In fact, Chris was reading a new book during the Immersion, he told us, if we were lucky he might implement some of that stuff with us. Then he laughed and said, maybe this is all just a scam, and we just tell you to go around do stupid shit? Wouldn’t that be funny?

I looked around at the table (this was maybe a week in). I hadn’t seen ANY distinct change in anyone around the table. There was maybe one guy who was almost a bit mentally cracked before, who seemed a bit more stable. But to me, they all just looked miserable. Even more so now, that they were encouraged to be upfront about it. I don’t know if any of us fucked a single girl that immersion. I think there was a german guy who was on a date, maybe he fucked. So maybe 1 out of 6 students possibly had sex during a 2 week program. I usually had sex with a new girl every 2 weeks (I didn’t manage to have sex with everyone I pulled), but I didn’t get laid. 

I took offense by this outburst. Maybe we’re just scamming you. I started to feel pretty scammed, without you actually pushing it in my face. I see why they would legally need you to sign that you cannot write negative reviews. I can see why they remove negative content from their facebook group. Isn’t this all about honesty after all?

—-Now back to the second pull… 

Now this was actually interesting. Chris was giving me some personalized attention. 

I think Chris probably has a good eye for some things, but he’s got an issue with listening. Seeing we’ve already had a few days together now, I think he was getting the grip of me a little bit. He told me, not to say a single thing, that wasn’t 100% true. Also – no questions. No chit-chat. No “excuse me” as you approach. 

I approached this girl, and I said Hi, then, I think you’re cute – then nothing. I didn’t know what to say. Couldn’t ask her anything. No chit chat. I just looked at her

Chris jumped in the set. He said something (I don’t remember quite what) – “tell her how you feel”. 

“I feel a bit awkward” I told the girl.

“Ok.” She said.

Silence. I looked at her. I didn’t know what to say. I didn’t really have much meaningful stuff to say to a stranger. I kept looking at her. Chris said:

“I can’t help you man.”

This was actually hilarious

“Take her for a coffee”. 

“Would you like to come for a coffee?”

What followed was the most cringy date of my life. There was just silence interspaced with me telling her I felt nervous or weird. I jumped on her bus with her, and we ended up outside her appartment. She didn’t let me in. 

She studied psychology. I really felt like she just embraced the weirdness of it all as an experiment. I didn’t really feel sexworthy or that I had provided her with anything at all of value. I have a hard time seeing this as something repeatable.

This was my very last pull until today. 

Time travel

Ah, the time travel. The famed time travel. It started with meditation for 20 minutes, then Lazarus asked me to lay back on his bed, and he started asking me questions. It was like 5 hours of having someone listening to you, while they just asked questions. 

This is something that I might have had some use out of actually – in a proffessional sense. The day after already, I did something similar to a girl I knew that called me – just over phone. And I think I do something akin to this sometimes with my patients. 

We were going backwards in time, to my experiences as a young boy. When I felt we were actually getting somewhere, that I hadn’t explored on my own yet, Lazarus stopped. He had reached some conclusion (and I could also see on him that he was tired). I felt a bit dissatisfied that we didn’t push on. 

His conclusion was something like “I didn’t want to take up time and space, because I wanted to be a good boy, else my mother would ignore me”. Something along those lines. I was supposed to read this every day, and reflect over it. 

This is also a time when Lazarus brought this up with the scams. He’d tell me that other programs were all scams. I held my tounge. 

In hindsight, I didn’t really get much from the time travel. I did reflect over this thing Lazarus told me. I think there was some truth to it, but it wasn’t all of the truth, and it wasn’t the deepest truth. As I felt with much of the program, I felt this was well intended, it was close to greatness, but it actually missed the mark so much that it probably diverted me more from improvement than helping me along. 

Throughout the immersion I felt more and more confused. They told me what to do. It didn’t work. I had been getting results by following their teaching for half a year, getting coaching from both Chris and Nils online. Learning to be OK with myself, and getting laid along the way. The worst thing now is that I started to doubt what they were teaching. Doubt what has already been working. If they are soo bad at teaching this stuff, hands on, maybe, it’s actually the wrong stuff…? As confidence fails, confidence in your vulnerable self, and showing it – in being OK, it put me in a pretty shitty place. I was just starting down that miserable path. 

Last day I brought it up. I told them, I feel so confused. Nothing is working. I feel worse than ever. 

“That exactly how it’s supposed to be”, Chris told me. We were all sitting together, all of us, in our last day. Chris wanted us to do something fun for the last day together, he was considering having us all throw eggs at one of the other pickup-guy’s house in Warsaw. 

However, they insured me I was on the right path. I looked each of them in the eyes, and they told me the same thing, each single one. I’m supposed to be confused. It’s a hallmark of progress, after 2 weeks of immersion. 

I was about to get my money back right there and then. But I looked around. I think, if I had asked for my money back, EVERY SINGLE STUDENT would as for his money back. It would be a shit fest. Better take it in private later, if this stuff still doesn’t work. 

Last night in Krakow I went out with one of the students. He looked a bit fucked up somehow, but he had garnered some not-giving-a-fuck about the experience. 

“I just want to dance” he told me. 

As he danced away on his own. This guy looked great, he looked like a keeper. He closed his eyes and twirled on the dancefloor. He didn’t talk to a single girl. Not one. I approached like 3, I got insta-rejected, as my wing danced the night away. He was happy not to approach. Then he went home. 

I think:

Being happy about not getting laid” would be the headtitle for the Social prime immersion. I’ve even heard other students say it. Now I also saw it. 

Aftermatch (getting a refund)

I tried what they had taught me, for the two weeks specified in the contract. I didn’t sign that contract, which limits the refund policy – mostly because it states all your material can basically be used as marketing content (including the time travel, which also happens with a camera to your face). 

Anyway, I did my best. I had known nothing but failure so far, but I gave it a shot. I had already told one of my best friends that I wanted to get laid at least once during the immersion, else I’d perform WORSE than I’m used to. That would be my cutoff for knowing they seriously underperformed, and that a refund would be morally justified. 

I tried what they told me for another two weeks, until the day before the refund policy stated on the contract, that I had NOT signed, went out. So I talked to Nils, he is the one who finally sold the immersion to me. He said, “If we don’t fix you, you DESERVE to get the money back.”

Here I say “Hi Nils, I don’t feel “fixed”, maybe more aware of my emotions, but so far – definetly worse at getting chicks than I was. 

It’s the last days now for getting a refund. 

I don’t have an incredible need for the money – I would much rather find at least one (1) quality chick. 

If you think that I with your help still am heading in the right direction – even though I myself cannot see this, I can try this for a few months more – if you’re prepared to extend the refund time-limit

I’d judge by how things are today, I feel definetly “unfixed” (here I of course refer to to the call we had)

His response was mainly asking about if I had done what they wanted me to do. Meditating, and journaling. This BTW seems to be the personalized “Future plan” for almost all students, at least the ones I’ve talked to. Meditate and write in your journal. 

Anyway, I did what he told me for an additional 3 months

This is what I say:

Dear Nils

It’s now been 3 months

I have still not kissed even one new girl, or pulled, or have had sex

It is actually resultwise even worse than even very modest expectations

I would now like to get the money refunded. Maybe others have had good results, but for me, things have mostly gone backwards. 

He replies

I’ve now talked to Chris, and he’d like you to contact him

What followed where another four months of Chris telling me what to do. I was really getting deep into anxiety and depression territory here. Chris was telling me he saw progress that I was not myself seeing. I was actually getting worse results than when I was absolutely new in game – mind you, I’ve been doing this for 12 years now. And I got WORSE results than my first years. I FELT SO SHIT. I had anxiety, worrying that I might be alone forever, and Chris told me to write those feelings down, and meditate. I didn’t wanna fucking meditate any more, I wanted to get laid. 

“There is no chance that if you really wanted to get laid, you wouldn’t get laid”, Chris said. 

Maybe he was right, maybe I just didn’t wanna be alone, or spend the rest of my life alone either for that matter. 

So for me it was like this: The pre-immersion coaching and marketing was Boss. I think they ave many really good ideas, that you can implement. Of course they promise you every thing you could ever wish for on those calls. And Nils is the most trustworthy guy ever, you just feel you want to trust him, and that he wants what’s best for you. 

The immersion was HORRIBLE. It was crap. Especially since they themselves through around the word scam so much. Even to the point that Christ was joking about it, at the immersion and then laughing at us. So the paid product, is, at least for me, total shit. 

Then they bumped me around, and stalled. I’ve made my intention clear early, that I wanted to get a refund. Then they stalled for time, finally sent me over to Chris, who himself hadn’t given me these promises. Promises that he dismissed as unrealistic. Well, dear Honesty Crew, please then don’t make unrealistic promises. 

Despite all this I’d like to think that they have the best intentions, they just deliver a crappy product because they’re experimenting on what will work, and they resort to these shitty business practises (lying, making you sign a contract when you’re already there – have paid, bought tickets and lodging, using the photage from day one in their marketing without your permission,  stalling until they say the guarantee is void, heading you over to someone who did NOT give you these promises to sell you they’re irrelevant etc etc ) because that’s the only way they can turn a profit, or at least the kind of profit that allows for the kind of life they want to live. 

Crap product and crap business practises – that’s why I’ve taken my time to write this. If they delivered a good product, I wouldn’t have any reason to waste my time on this. If they refunded me instead of stalling (and let me get back to something that actually works instead of leading me on), I’d again not be writing this. No matter their intentions, at this point, I could not recommend anyone to take the immersion. I have recommended people before. One of my friends did it, on my recommendation – and he ended up not approaching a girl for a year straight. 

They don’t know what they’re doing. They’re figuring it out though. Possibly you could pay them 4500 euro to run their experiments on you. I’d recommend that ONLY, if that money is NOT an investment for you. If that kind of money is a serious investment for you, then you tend to take them seriously – just like I did. Just like friends of mine have. The chances are that they will just lead you astray, have you pay for the journey, while you then have to find your way back, best you can – on your own. 

A total waste of time and money, to the point where it is unforgivable. 

No amount of good intentions can be an excuse for such a horrible track record, and such horrid business practices.  

Chris Wide

I think this group would never have taken off without Chris. He serves as the figurehead of the company. He grabbed the attention they needed to get started. As a person he has always been good to me. There are a lot of people who does not like him though, but until the Immersion I’d personally not seen anything wrong with how he’s acted.

I do think he’s a second grade coach however. Everything he says is delivered in a breaking rapport 100% convinced tonality. He can tell you to shove your head up your own arse, and make it sound like a believable solution to all your problems. A person who can say truth, and absolute horseshit – and make them sound the same. You never know if he’s suggesting you to do something he’s seen and tried many times, or something he read in a book 5 minutes ago, and is now just experimenting with, on your expense. 

He does not listen actively. But if you expose yourself to him, he might passively soak up enough knowledge about you that he might possibly be able to give you appropriate advice. Or – it’ll just be pure bullshit, that you will believe in, and will have you run around in circles or even backwards. 

I think he grapples a lot with the persona he’s built up. It gets in his way of being an efficient teacher. There is no doubt that he is good with girls. 

I’d suggest observation, and listening to what he’s saying. There will be good stuff here. Don’t let him get into your mind, though. He’ll make a mess. You can take his advice, for sure, but it’s not gospel, and you should regard it carefully. 

Nils Flair

This guy will make you trust him. “Everyone likes Nils”. I’ve heard people who doesn’t at ALL like Social Prime, still like Nils. 

As a teacher, I think he is one of the best ones in the whole industry. I’ve seen so many fuck-ups that didn’t get their fill, didn’t get what they expected, from the immersion. But, if anyone actually got better, ever – I’m sure 80% of those people- AT LEAST were due to Nils. 

What sets him apart, I think, are the following

1: Trust. You naturally feel like just trusting this guy. 

2: Positivity. You can feel that this guy wants what’s best for you

3: Technique and reframing. There are ways of using traditional techniques, from a more natural perspective. Nils can coach you into discovering those. Coming from that angle will make things feel way better, in addition to making things more congruent. 

4: Helping you discover things on your own.  He will nudge you in the right direction, like the definition of a warm alpha. 

5: Listening. He will listen and understand you first, before he speaks. 

6: Because he gets a good understanding of you, he will speak to you, with your own words, through your own perspective, which can have a profound effect. 

Now Nils lied to me, since he was the one who sold the Immersion to me, and the one I got back to regarding the refund. I know for a fact, that he’s not to be trusted – which is damn horrible. There are few humans on this planet that I just wish I could trust more than this guy. I’ve also seen how he fucked over one of his very close friends, in a way that was really hurtful to see.

To sum it up: I think this guy can help many people. But he’s not what he seems. He can manipulate even close friends. He can also manipulate you, if you let him. 

Lazarus

Who is Lazarus? 

I think that’s a very relevant question, and maybe something that has bugged him. He doesn’t seem to stand out in the same way, and I think he’s been struggling to feel like he actually belongs, or deserves to be part of their team. 

This in turn, I believe has created a bit of an ego, that hampers his capability to listen. 

I’d like to put it like this: 

He doesn’t listen with his ears, he doesn’t see with his eyes, and such, when he gives you advice, he speaks with his arse. 

I do believe that, for all his flaws, he intends the best. But I also think he’s more concerned with being a good teacher, and being proud of himself, than actually helping you. 

I blame most of my disaster immersion on him personally. He thought he saw himself in me, and proceeded to treat me like that. From that point on he stopped listening. I could literally see him go blank as I was speaking to him. He had made up his mind, and was already closed to feedback. 

In my opinion, their worst worst coach, but I think he has the ability to grow exceptional if he lets his ego go, gives up, and starts to view the world with fresh eyes, instead of the ones that are steeped in his own personal misery. 

Yolmaz

He didn’t coach me much. Generally I think he’s decent. It’s hard to believe that this guy will make a big scheme to fuck you over in any way. 

He seems to be quite in tune with the present moment, and doesn’t seem to complicate things very much. He was actually a voice of sanity during the immersion, not duped and spiritually in tune with the magic transformation of being honest. 

Conversely I think he seemed very honest. 

I think he’s underestimated. I think if he had been my coach during the immersion I’d at least not gotten fucked up. His touch with reality I believe is such that I think he’d just backed up from anything that he saw was not working.  

Perhaps he lacks the potential to change you deeply, but maybe that’s not actually required, to get pussy. 

I can’t really say much about his coaching since we spent like 6 hours together, and those were 6 pretty un-magic hours, but on the flip side, filled with a voice of sanity. 

I don’t think this guy could ever create a worshiping cult to his teachings. But maybe that’s not neccessary. 

I think 

What now?

I’ve had issues come up that are just ridiculous. As a child I had panic anxiety syndrome. I had maybe 5 or 6 attacks in total until I realized – it’s not dangerous. My strategy was, what I felt it coming, I redirected my focus to a number, and I just kept thinking about that number until the anxiety went away. I had control 

Chris Wide

I think this group would never have taken off without Chris. He serves as the figurehead of the company. He grabbed the attention they needed to get started. As a person he has always been good to me. There are a lot of people who does not like him though, but until the Immersion I’d personally not seen anything wrong with how he’s acted.

I do think he’s a second grade coach however. Everything he says is delivered in a breaking rapport 100% convinced tonality. He can tell you to shove your head up your own arse, and make it sound like a believable solution to all your problems. A person who can say truth, and absolute horseshit – and make them sound the same. You never know if he’s suggesting you to do something he’s seen and tried many times, or something he read in a book 5 minutes ago, and is now just experimenting with, on your expense. 

He does not listen actively. But if you expose yourself to him, he might passively soak up enough knowledge about you that he might possibly be able to give you appropriate advice. Or – it’ll just be pure bullshit, that you will believe in, and will have you run around in circles or even backwards. 

I think he grapples a lot with the persona he’s built up. It gets in his way of being an efficient teacher. There is no doubt that he is good with girls. 

I’d suggest observation, and listening to what he’s saying. There will be good stuff here. Don’t let him get into your mind, though. He’ll make a mess. You can take his advice, for sure, but it’s not gospel, and you should regard it carefully. 

Nils Flair

This guy will make you trust him. “Everyone likes Nils”. I’ve heard people who doesn’t at ALL like Social Prime, still like Nils. 

As a teacher, I think he is one of the best ones in the whole industry. I’ve seen so many fuck-ups that didn’t get their fill, didn’t get what they expected, from the immersion. But, if anyone actually got better, ever – I’m sure 80% of those people- AT LEAST were due to Nils. 

What sets him apart, I think, are the following

1: Trust. You naturally feel like just trusting this guy. 

2: Positivity. You can feel that this guy wants what’s best for you

3: Technique and reframing. There are ways of using traditional techniques, from a more natural perspective. Nils can coach you into discovering those. Coming from that angle will make things feel way better, in addition to making things more congruent. 

4: Helping you discover things on your own.  He will nudge you in the right direction, like the definition of a warm alpha. 

5: Listening. He will listen and understand you first, before he speaks. 

6: Because he gets a good understanding of you, he will speak to you, with your own words, through your own perspective, which can have a profound effect. 

Now Nils lied to me, since he was the one who sold the Immersion to me, and the one I got back to regarding the refund. I know for a fact, that he’s not to be trusted – which is damn horrible. There are few humans on this planet that I just wish I could trust more than this guy. I’ve also seen how he fucked over one of his very close friends, in a way that was really hurtful to see.

To sum it up: I think this guy can help many people. But he’s not what he seems. He can manipulate even close friends. He can also manipulate you, if you let him. 

Lazarus

Who is Lazarus? 

I think that’s a very relevant question, and maybe something that has bugged him. He doesn’t seem to stand out in the same way, and I think he’s been struggling to feel like he actually belongs, or deserves to be part of their team. 

This in turn, I believe has created a bit of an ego, that hampers his capability to listen. 

I’d like to put it like this: 

He doesn’t listen with his ears, he doesn’t see with his eyes, and such, when he gives you advice, he speaks with his arse. 

I do believe that, for all his flaws, he intends the best. But I also think he’s more concerned with being a good teacher, and being proud of himself, than actually helping you. 

I blame most of my disaster immersion on him personally. He thought he saw himself in me, and proceeded to treat me like that. From that point on he stopped listening. I could literally see him go blank as I was speaking to him. He had made up his mind, and was already closed to feedback. 

In my opinion, their worst worst coach, but I think he has the ability to grow exceptional if he lets his ego go, gives up, and starts to view the world with fresh eyes, instead of the ones that are steeped in his own personal misery. 

Yolmaz

He didn’t coach me much. Generally I think he’s decent. It’s hard to believe that this guy will make a big scheme to fuck you over in any way. 

He seems to be quite in tune with the present moment, and doesn’t seem to complicate things very much. He was actually a voice of sanity during the immersion, not duped and spiritually in tune with the magic transformation of being honest. 

Conversely I think he seemed very honest. 

I think he’s underestimated. I think if he had been my coach during the immersion I’d at least not gotten fucked up. His touch with reality I believe is such that I think he’d just backed up from anything that he saw was not working.  

Perhaps he lacks the potential to change you deeply, but maybe that’s not actually required, to get pussy. 

I can’t really say much about his coaching since we spent like 6 hours together, and those were 6 pretty un-magic hours, but on the flip side, filled with a voice of sanity. 

I don’t think this guy could ever create a worshiping cult to his teachings. But maybe that’s not neccessary. 

Note that in the video I said it’s in “objective review”. It obviously isn’t, but I did to try include the good – and the bad.

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